diff --git a/Documentation/ideas.md b/Documentation/ideas.md
index 4d5b07a04..dc64f4e75 100644
--- a/Documentation/ideas.md
+++ b/Documentation/ideas.md
@@ -72,6 +72,9 @@
 
 ## Lower Priority
 
+- lvgl-module has a keyboard.cpp that creates a `keyboard_group`. This group is set as the default group, so it can also work with trackball(= LVGL "encoder").
+  Make a separate group that is the default group. The keyboard can then use it (or use its own).
+  The basic idea is to invert the ownership: now the keyboard group is made the default group, but it's probably more logical to have the default group used by the keyboard.
 - lvgl-module's spinner relies on hard-coded spinner asset from Tactility main project.
 - Localize all apps
 - Support hot-plugging SD card (note: this is not possible if they require the CS pin hack)
diff --git a/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/keyboard.cpp b/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/keyboard.cpp
index 0774fcece..d8c66476f 100644
--- a/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/keyboard.cpp
+++ b/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/keyboard.cpp
@@ -19,6 +19,10 @@ void lvgl_keyboard_on_start_lvgl() {
     lvgl_lock();
     keyboard_group = lv_group_create();
     check(keyboard_group);
+    // We currently set this group as the default, so it doesn't only get (manually added) textareas,
+    // but gets all widgets by default. This is a temporary work-around until a proper default group is
+    // created to fix the trackball issue (see trackball.cpp and ideas.md, search for "group")
+    lv_group_set_default(keyboard_group);
     lvgl_unlock();
 }
 
diff --git a/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/trackball.cpp b/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/trackball.cpp
index 266697f8d..6a75aeeac 100644
--- a/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/trackball.cpp
+++ b/Modules/lvgl-module/source/devices/trackball.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 // SPDX-License-Identifier: Apache-2.0
 #include <lvgl/devices/trackball.h>
 #include <lvgl/devices/device_context.h>
+#include <lvgl/devices/keyboard.h>
 #include <lvgl/lvgl.h>
 
 #include <tactility/drivers/trackball.h>
@@ -154,6 +155,13 @@ error_t lvgl_trackball_add(struct Device* device, lv_display_t* display, lv_inde
     }
     recenter_cursor(ctx, indev);
 
+    // Encoder indevs are useless without a group (LVGL dispatch bails out immediately if indev->group is NULL)
+    // Use the keyboard group for now, until it's refactored into a proper global/shared group. See ideas.md
+    // When refactoring this, you probably want to remove the calls to lvgl_keyboard_* below.
+    if (ctx->settings.mode == LVGL_TRACKBALL_MODE_ENCODER) {
+        lvgl_keyboard_enable(indev);
+    }
+
     *out_indev = indev;
     return ERROR_NONE;
 }
@@ -196,12 +204,14 @@ error_t lvgl_trackball_set_settings(lv_indev_t* indev, const struct LvglTrackbal
 
     if (mode_changed) {
         if (settings->mode == LVGL_TRACKBALL_MODE_POINTER) {
+            lvgl_keyboard_disable(indev);
             lv_indev_set_type(indev, LV_INDEV_TYPE_POINTER);
             recenter_cursor(ctx, indev);
             show_cursor(ctx, indev);
         } else {
             hide_cursor(ctx);
             lv_indev_set_type(indev, LV_INDEV_TYPE_ENCODER);
+            lvgl_keyboard_enable(indev);
         }
     }